Know your weights and measures . George Daniel’s book Dynamic Nymphing Purchase here to support Troutbitten. Each element influences the other. I’ve tried weighted flies there, and they hang up too often — defeating the point of the drop shot rig, really. . Know your tippet diameter. Check out the link above, and search the web for drop shot rigs and you’ll see many different options. It’s what long-term anglers love about this game. Now just a five-inch strip with the rod tip up. . That’s a good thing, because trout look up for food an awful lot. . It’s what long-term anglers love about this game. And these two qualities determine a leader’s turnover power and the amount of potential drag . Long story short…euro for drifting and drop shot when crawling my patterns slowly on the bottom during slow periods of activity.”. At the heart of every good leader design is an intentional balance between turnover and drag. If you’re unfamiliar, here’s a quick primer on drop-shot nymphing from Kelly Galloup. And the river. So let’s fix that. I understand keeping the bottom fly unweighted. Fish on! Angler Types in Profile Big Trout Commentary Dry Fly Fishing Fly Fishing StrategiesGear Reviews Night FishingNymphing Stories Streamers Tactics Troutbitten Fly Box, Gear Review Policy Terms and conditonsPrivacy PolicyAffiliate Link DisclosureAmazon Affiliate Disclaimer, Gear Review Policy Terms and conditons Privacy Policy Affiliate Link Disclosure Amazon Affiliate Disclaimer, This is Part Two of my conversation with George Daniel, author and guide at. Part One of this short series, back up and give it a read. Both split shot and weighted flies have their advantages . Drop shotting is an alternative way to present those tag flies. I enjoyed it much. And learn to accurately judge the distance you are casting. 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These are first person accounts showing the thoughts, strategies and actions around particular situations on the river, putting the reader in the mind of the angler. Often it’s just a #1 or a #4 shot. I’m a father of two young boys, a husband, author, fly fishing guide and a musician. And the easiest place to start is to know your distances. A bounce rig, as I understand it, is simply a drop shot setup with a bobber. .” And I knew something unusual was coming. Glad to send you some. Please read and understand this dangerous issue, then do something to protect Fishing Creek . But I don’t do it that way so much, because the trout don’t respond as well,” I said. Join the mailing list to receive all Troutbitten articles and updates directly to your inbox. He simply mentioned that that’s what some of his friends call it. This article is part of the Walk Along series. An article about three interactive elements in a nymphing rig. George was on the clock as manager of the State College TCO store at the time. Here are my thoughts on euro nymphing lines vs a Mono Rig. . Lead. It’s a great way to keep in touch. Understand the length, thickness and weight of your leader’s butt section. At night, those nymphs are often purposely higher than I like to ride them during the daylight. Fish on! Instead, I’d like to share the two most interesting points that George Daniel made about drop-shot nymphing. So let’s fix that. Some of his friends? Dec 2, 2019 - The real secret to tightlining is in staying somewhere between tightline and slackline — that’s where the magic lies. In my opinion, the choice of indicator or no indicator is independent of the weight used. Thanks, Rick. Thank you all, for a wonderful and busy 2019 season! No matter the conditions, my go to nymphing rig has a smaller, lighter fly on a tag. And many of those adjustments are based on our thought processes around weights and measures. Family. I suppose that could have been the end for me, but I learned the nymph. Kelly Galloup has an alternative method of direct nymphing. I also use it for night nymphing a lot. An article about three interactive elements in a nymphing rig. “No one ever seems to mention weighted flies as an option. Your email address will not be published. So, as a result, I had great feedback that was both visual and tactile (more often than not, I could feel the rig bouncing), and when I had a take, the little sighter moved in a way that was noticeably different than when the shot was simply bouncing along the bottom, which helped a lot with strike detection. So, gather data toward those questions, and then branch off from there. “Then all of the sudden a trout takes the upper fly,” he said. The Troutbitten Streamside series is a chance to step away from the normal, weekly lineup of stories and tactics. Although having said that I am forcing myself to fish more just weighted flies to expand my arsenal, so maybe it is more comfort level what you can handle and accommodate. To fish streamers, we surely need weight somewhere in the rig. I drop shot with a bobber when I want to get to the bottom fast. Mount the shot about 6 inches above the fly. I learned this fifteen years ago, while tirelessly picking his brain about tight line tactics. Finally, I fish Euro when I want to keep things simple and beautiful. These views address all seasons, all distances and many variations . And using split shot rather than built-in weight allows for a more gradual up and down motion. If you fish hard and pay attention to the details, you’ll often catch, miss or turn enough trout to learn something. Last point: I do use weighted nymphs in a drop shot rig — sometimes. These are first person accounts showing the thoughts, strategies and actions around particular situations on the river, putting the reader in the mind of the angler. In Part Three, I share George Daniel’s thoughts on floating the sighter. I have tried them, yes. Many anglers avoid using split shot because it's a pain in the ass to attach, to remove and to keep from sliding. 4. But, overall . 4. . Friends. The Mono Rig is a hybrid system for fishing nymphs (both tight line and indicator styles), streamers, dry-dropper, wets, and small dries. Weighted nymphs don’t do that in the same way.”. https://troutbitten.com/2020/04/30/streamside-dave-rothrocks-drop-shot-video 156 talking about this. If the shot does snag to the point where it can’t easily be pulled free, we can choose to break off the shot and not lose the flies. This is my home, and I love it. Will definitely try it. Joe Humphreys’ book Trout Tactics Purchase here to support Troutbitten. I usually try not to touch the riverbed. What I like about the drop shot approach is the great feedback I get from the bottom. What varies is the distance from the end of the line and the type of nymph I use. READ: Troutbitten | Forget the Bottom — Glide Nymphs Though the Strike Zone. Tackle that first . I drop shot with a bobber when I want to fish across stream, for many of the reasons George mentioned in the first part of the interview. . . Your email address will not be published. . And no matter how I rig, my goal for drifting is rarely the bottom itself — it’s the strike zone above it. . I have drop shotted before (heck I do it with various “worm” setups spinning all the time) and to me the hardest part is the cast, there is a lot of crap to get twisted around each other. . So I keep my lower flies unweighted in a drop shot rig. Usualy if i need to break-off it’s just the shot section that goes.Cheers, Hello all. Making adjustments is the key to consistent fly fishing. Focus . Great post Dom! My flies are on rotating tags but with a figure of eight knot loop instead of a perfection loop.My leader bottom has a figure of eight loop also.I just tie on a length of weaker tippet to the figure of eight loop for my shot. See more ideas about bass fishing tips, fishing tips, drop shot. So, now, let me ask you, Dom: when do you Euro nymph and when do you drop shot? I routinely feel takes and bottom from the split shot all the way through to my fly line greatly increasing strike detection and control. 3. Stop it. I often run the same tag nymphs in a drop shot rig that I do in a standard rig. Fly Casting, Fly Fishing Strategies, Tactics. I know when my nymphs are where I want them to be and, by adjusting weights, I can slow them down or speed them up. The reason for that is that a lot of lead will slow down the bobber to the point that it’s moving at around half the speed of the surface flow. . George and I are both aware that the bounce rig is a Provo River staple. A fly fishing site about trout and rivers. . . 2. . 5.2K likes. I promise to do that in another series at another time. Tips, tactics, stories and guide service from central Pennsylvania. Stories, tips and tactics for pursuing wild trout with nymphs, streamers and dry flies. Enjoy the day. Another idea is to put a single overhand knot above the shot. Much appreciated. “Sure. Required fields are marked *, Devin Olsen’s Book Tactical Fly Fishing Purchase here to support Troutbitten. Just an overhand knot? Enjoyed Dave’s clip as well. I’m anxious to try this drop-shot business. Right on. Nothing is more important than the leader. Virtually snag-less on rock bottoms and easy to change weights. And if it works and it suits your needs, fish it. Tuck. unweighted nymphs in a drop-shot system bounce and jiggle every time the shot touches bottom. Your email address will not be published. Understand the length, thickness and weight of your leader’s butt section. Here is a modified definition the Troutbitten blog published. . Enjoy the day. I tend to choose drop shot when I want to touch bottom but not lose the flies. So, like you, I asked George what I think is the central question: when does he Euro nymph and when does he drop shot. Angler Types in Profile Big Trout Commentary Dry Fly Fishing Fly Fishing StrategiesGear Reviews Night FishingNymphing Stories Streamers Tactics Troutbitten Fly Box, Gear Review Policy Terms and conditonsPrivacy PolicyAffiliate Link DisclosureAmazon Affiliate Disclaimer, Gear Review Policy Terms and conditons Privacy Policy Affiliate Link Disclosure Amazon Affiliate Disclaimer. Right?” I asked. Depth, Angle, Drop: Three Elements of a Nymphing Rig | Troutbitten. Hello Dom, I thought I would finally make a comment or two. The further away the weight is from the streamer, the more moderate those motions will be. It’s how we solve the daily puzzles. I don’t have a clear distinction between the two. . Now just a five-inch strip with the rod tip up. Join Troutbitten and follow along. And many of those adjustments are based on our thought processes around weights and measures. Reading Water, Stories, Tactics, Walk Along. We are passionate and ambitious anglers committed to fishing . All of these elements are intertwined. all the way through the drift. Depth, Angle, Drop: Three Elements of a Nymphing Rig | Troutbitten. I also use it a lot in places that develop a lot of salad on the streambed — so the junk slides off the shot and the flies rarely touch bottom. , Your email address will not be published. “It seems to me that as soon as most guys rig up with drop shot, they immediately think they have to touch bottom more. Join Troutbitten and follow along. I see now actually after reading again you said if the bottom fly is weighted it hangs up too much. . Reference: “Angler Types in Profile: The I’ve been doing that forever guy.”, So, yes, I am paying attention, if that was a test, Dom? . Jun 14, 2018 - Weighted flies catch fish. And while this is also one of the most common questions I’ve fielded through the years, it has a complex answer that I’ve never tackled in an article. Tuck. And advanced angling starts by being aware of the stats. And I was happy to discover that trout, in fact, usually are on nymphs. Pause slightly for the fly to drop. I fished the Provo about 5yrs ago and that’s all anyone talked about. By following these links and buying any of the products in this Troutbitten Gear section, Troutbitten earns a commission for the referral, but your price stays the same. . Domenick Swentosky T R O U T B I T T E N domenick@troutbitten.com. I’ve heard it called that because the shot bounces on the bottom. This also happens best when the nymphs are rigged on a tag rather than inline. There are more gems like these in George’s new book, Nymph Fishing. Dave presented it quite well, and it was easy to follow his discussion. But then tilted his head sideways, signaling “Yeah, but . Remember, there are no rules. Actually, you want the knot to fail if the shot gets stuck on the bottom. I made an interesting observation while drop-shooting this weekend. So, gather data toward those questions, and then branch off from there. Then allow the shot to drop to the bottom; the streamer will swing around on its 6 inch leash and face into the current. And that’s why I liked GD’s point about the unweighted flies bouncing — that’s something that may not happen with weighted flies, and it might explain why drop shotting sometimes outperforms weighted flies. And these two qualities determine a leader’s turnover power and the amount of potential drag . I also often feel like the point fly is at least in the first pass “riding the bottom” and a trout isn’t going to “suck it off the floor” so the point in the first run is a waste. Domenick Swentosky T R O U T B I T T E N domenick@troutbitten.com. Dec 2, 2019 - The real secret to tightlining is in staying somewhere between tightline and slackline — that’s where the magic lies. Troutbitten. The nice thing about a drop shot … And advanced angling starts by being aware of the stats. Section on flies , organization, local waters.. Dave is a fellow Pennsylvania fishing guide who has probably been slinging nymphs since before I was born. It’s how we solve the daily puzzles. And the river. Sep 4, 2016 - Read our fly fishing tips on how to catch fish nymping here. I have been using the drop-shot method quite often on deeper fast Scottish rivers.I either tight line it or use a bobber.On what you call the mono rig.It has been very effective especially for grayling.I have been fishing it heavy.I usually want to feel it bounce along bottom & slow the drift down.You don’t blunt hook points or loose many flies.I am probably still a drop-shot novice .Keep the drop-shot stuff coming. What I discovered is that the tag bounced around a lot as the shot was skipping over the bottom. That way, all you lose is the shot. The Pat Dorsey indicator to my understanding was NEVER intended to suspend or float heavy shot weighted nymphing rigs. Drop it. Reading Water, Stories, Tactics, Walk Along. Fly Casting, Fly Fishing Strategies, Tactics. I use a glow-in-the-dark sighter, but I still lack total visual feedback in the darkness, so I turn to a drop shot rig. Material diameter and material stiffness. because we love it. so for now, I am giving “euro” a run and my first time out tonight…it worked . It makes total sense; get your flies close to the bottom but not ON the bottom, less hang-ups, yada yada. Tick. And the easiest place to start is to know your distances. Dec 7, 2019 - Explore Wahoowillie's board "Drop shot rig" on Pinterest. Sorry, but had to laugh at the “I’ve been doing this since the 1970’s” statement. https://troutbitten.com/2014/11/05/the-backing-barrel/. Other times, I might rig the tag with a lighter line so it breaks off, but the flies stay. So let’s talk about drop-shotting,” I said to George. I don’t really like to leave anything on the river bottom if I can help it. I have been watching loads of YouTube videos on the Provo river bounce.Everyone seems to fish it with a fly line with a thingamabobber a short distance from there fly line.Then they do lots of mending of fly line.Don’t see any videos with anyone high sticking it on the mono rig.Does it work better with fly line.Cheers. READ: Troutbitten | Fly Fishing Strategies — Tags and Trailers. Yes, he fishes more than streamers. George explained that he likes to use the drop-shot method to create pauses in the drift — to hold the nymphs in position for a moment before resuming their downstream course. He uses a drop shot technique with two nymphs either with or without a suspender. Placing the weight on the bottom of the rig and tying in the flies above provides some significant advantages. See more of Troutbitten on Facebook. And while this is also one of the most common questions I’ve fielded through the years, it has a complex answer that I’ve never tackled in an article. Article from troutbitten.com. Since 2014 and 600 articles deep Troutbitten is a free resource for all anglers Your support is greatly appreciated. At the heart of the puzzle is an eternal question: What do the trout want? “So, what about weighted flies in a drop shot rig?” I asked. All of these elements are intertwined. With 20 pound monofilament as a fly line substitute, and with fly-line-style casting, better control, contact and strike detection are gained with the Mono Rig versus a fly line. Maxima Chameleon, even the 20lb, carries vibrations extremely well. Why? And be nice. Incidentally, I hate the term “euro” in reference to these tactics. the big nasties (aka linemen) are in the trenches with the defense trying to let Tom Brady get a couple tapes on the highlight reel. 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